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Message: 	Oh, I just remembered this one: Some years ago I was conversing with a British woman and she used the word &#8220;Chooda&#8221;. I said &#8220;What?&#8221;, and she repeated it a couple of times, but I still couldn&#8217;t figure out what she was trying to say. Finally, she spelled it out for me: &#8220;T &#8211; U &#8211; D &#8211; O &#8211; R&#8221;! Someone needs to teach these Brits to speak English ;^D

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Message: 	burred, you&#8217;re a font of fun stuff.

	Off the top of my head, I can remember that, when I worked in mental health, I and others were confused about &#8220;extrapyramidal symptoms&#8221; versus &#8220;extraparametal symptoms&#8221;. I know there are other examples of phonetic misspelling I&#8217;ve encountered, but can&#8217;t bring them to mind right now.

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<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 03:07:15 -0400</pubDate>
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<title>&#34;hawk&#34; for &#34;hock&#34; in Eggcornish meeting places : Contribute!</title>
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<description>Topic: 	&#8220;hawk&#8221; for &#8220;hock&#8221; 

 

Message: 	czearfoss, I never really figured out any likely meaning-similarity that would justify calling &#8220;hawk&#8221; for &#8220;hock&#8221; an eggcorn rather than just a substitution. I&#8217;m calling it an eggcorn simply because its converse, &#8220;hock&#8221; for &#8220;hawk&#8221;, is listed as an eggcorn in the &#8220;Browse Eggcorns&#8221; list, and I assume that such meaning-confusions work equally well in either direction. But I don&#8217;t know what the reasoning was for including that pair in the eggcorn list in the first place. I do know that a page associated with &#8220;hock&#8221; for &#8220;hawk&#8221; ( specifically, the page at http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/329/hock/ ) classifies it as &#8220;English – cot/caught merger&#8221;, which makes sense but tells us nothing of any meaning connection between the two words. When I originally posted in this thread, I read most or all of the Eggcorn Database links on the subject, but don&#8217;t recall whether there was any info thereat that would answer your question. If you want to read those links, google-searching &#8220;hawk hock&#8221; from the Eggcorn Database search page will get you the list.

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Message: 	Wanted to clarify&#8212;I think it is more than a substitution &#8211;  I think there are connotations about the boat being out there in the great unknown ocean, thus the fate not being established, thus linking it to &#8220;vote is out&#8221; in the &#8220;to be determined&#8221; meaning .  But in my opinion there is a different angle here.  Where the &#8220;vote is out&#8221; means a result is inevitable, &#8220;the boat is still out&#8221; has a more indeterminate aspect, there the boat could actually never come in&#8230;  thus the novel meaning required of eggcorn.

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<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 21:03:30 -0400</pubDate>
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Message: 	On your devils advocate thown down:   my take is that  &#8220;boat has sailed&#8221; and &#8220;vote is still out&#8221; are complete opposite, so I don&#8217;t think there is confusion between the 2.  
So someone doing a substitution would have a completely psychotic appreciation of the meaning of either and/or both&#8230;  
Which of course is possible, so need to search for context to verify&#8230;
So.
Tons of relevant/supportive hit on googling &#8220;the boat is still out on that one&#8221;  &#8211;  I really didn&#8217;t think it would be that overwhelming!

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<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 20:57:50 -0400</pubDate>
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<description>Topic: 	&#8220;hawk&#8221; for &#8220;hock&#8221; 

 

Message: 	Hawk is linked to republicans via the Dove and Hawk eco-political philosophies, with republicans typically being &#8220;Hawkish&#8221;, thus establishing the word association shown in the quote above.  
My first thought is that it is simple word substitution, but I&#8217;m working on some angles&#8230;.
Chief concern is that I think the core meaning is changed through the substitution. 

	I tried to get creative with google, looking for:
hawkish about being in debt pawn shop
and variations, but not getting anything golden&#8230;.

	Next I&#8217;m thinking of a hawk taking advantage of a situation like unattentive prey &#8211;  so a pawn shop could be taking advantage of a Hock-er similar to how a Hawk would&#8230;
But I&#8217;m not seeing anything&#8230;

	Something to think about, event though &#8220;hawking goods on the street&#8221; type of meaning for &#8220;to hawk&#8221; is a bit antiquated&#8230;.  but this link from 11 may 2012 shows it in the first sentence: http://www.wnyc.org/blogs/its-free-blog &#8230; ild-abuse/
&#8220;The Republicans have been hawking a doozy of a lie for several years now,...&#8221;

	Maybe it is related to &#8220;hawking goods&#8221;  &#8211; to pitching your wares.  Hawking is selling, which means getting money for some item &#8211;  While hocking is borrowing, where by you are getting money for some item&#8230;  ??

	So while it could be a spelling type of substitution, maybe there is also a slight shift of meaning, making it related/similar but having a distinction?

 BUT the problem is I can&#8217;t find supporting evidence via google.  Any thoughts?

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<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 20:49:00 -0400</pubDate>
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Message: 	Mishearing is an important source of eggcorns. Simple misspellings are not eggcorns, of course, although they can be interesting and transparent. The following were collected in a few days of listening closely to pronunciations from around the world on BBC World Service.

	
		[Title] Yuge Python
[Description] My mate man handling a yuge python.
Hutube 

	

	
		What does menusha mean? 
ChaCha questions

	

	
		[Q] I want to ask&#8230; Which do you find more effective&#8230; Air chokes or blood chokes?
[A] We set in a large circle faceing outward. He went around behind us and applied an air type blockage until we tapped out(usually when ones vision started to narrow). After a break, he did the same thing with a carroted artory neck choke. The tap outs were much, much quicker with that technique.
Survivalist parlour trick

	

	
		me jumping off sand june 
Youjyoob

	

	
		Give &#8216;em a bible and let them show where in the scripture homosectial marriage is condoned. Until then, it shouldn&#8217;t be allwoed, period.
Gay sects

	

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<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 06:57:06 -0400</pubDate>
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<title>House-cleaning: 34 eggcornish also-rans in Eggcornish meeting places : Contribute!</title>
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Message: 	Great lists! Pat and klakritz, your standards for what you think deserves its own post are much higher than mine. I would have posted many of the ones you listed. Even if something isn&#8217;t strictly an eggcorn, it could be interesting or, better yet, funny. We need all the laughs we can get in this rough world.

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<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 06:22:29 -0400</pubDate>
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Message: 	Here&#8217;s a new discovery, not previously mentioned on this site. I never encountered this one until I saw it in an online bulletin board post today: &#8220;Once it becomes universal it will be a lot easier to to get into the happen to bring a bag.&#8221; The similarity in sound between &#8220;happen&#8221; and &#8220;habit&#8221; is marginally enough to call it an eggcorn, and the meaning connection is there, I think. Googling &#8220;into the happen&#8221; yields about 30 unique hits which are definitely this eggcorn, so it&#8217;s fairly rare while still being, I think, incontrovertibly an eggcorn. Some more examples:

	
		I&#8217;ve gotten into the happen of catching myself and correcting when I do things I dont want to do anymore.

	

	
		I fell into the happen of not posting for months at a time on the previous blog&#8230;

	

	
		Try to get into the happen of utilizing the whole day&#8230;

	

	
		I have gotten into the happen of tossing handfuls of water into my stripping basket as I go&#8230;

	

	
		I was very busy with school for a long time and then I never got back into the happen of writing blog posts&#8230;

	

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<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 05:55:06 -0400</pubDate>
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Message: 	First and second person accounts of overheating the popcorn until it burns.

	
		I used to think it was &#8220;That&#8217;s the popcorn in the kettle&#8230;.. black.&#8221; i had no idea what the black was for.
http://www.moopy.org.uk/forums/archive/ &#8230; 4-p-2.html

	

	
		I saw a guy comment the other day that a situation was like &#8220;the popcorn in the kettle black&#8221;.
http://www.redditgadgetguide.com/r/AskR &#8230; on_a_limp/

	

	
		she devised the useful idiom, &#8216;that&#8217;s the popcorn in the kettle black.&#8217;
Mother

	

	I don&#8217;t think this qualifies as an eggcorn. It looks like what Dave Tuggy would call a mondegreen in his useful, more liberal definition, that is, a misheard word or idiom or lyric that is phonetically reasonable but semantically catastrophic.

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<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:59:51 -0400</pubDate>
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<title>Safety posit box in Eggcornish meeting places : Slips, innovations and reshapings</title>
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Message: 	Users of a safety posit box acknowledge that the security of its contents is only a conjecture.

	
		I went to the bank to do inventory on my grandad&#8217;s coins that were in his safety posit box
blog

	

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<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:55:07 -0400</pubDate>
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<title>Soccer punches and socker punches in Eggcornish meeting places : Slips, innovations and reshapings</title>
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Message: 	A first person account&#8230;

	
		Soccer punch. And no, I&#8217;m not talking about the drink players gulp down on the soccer field.
Last night my husband was complaining about his pillow and how it wasn&#8217;t cooperating. I told him it was probably due to the 5 soccer punches he threw its way moments before.
&#8220;Soccer punches?&#8221; he questioned. The lights were out but I could imagine the quizzical look on his face. &#8220;What&#8217;s that? Don&#8217;t you play soccer with your feet?&#8221;
&#8220;No,&#8221; I said. &#8220;It&#8217;s a real move.&#8221; He then asked me to use it in a sentence and I came back with, &#8220;Billy took a soccer punch to the gut.&#8221;
My husband clearly wasn&#8217;t buying it and as I rolled over to face the wall he leaned towards me and said, &#8220;I think you mean sucker punch.&#8221; In my defense I&#8217;d just like to say that the 2 words &#8220;soccer&#8221; and &#8220;sucker&#8221; sound similar.
So what if I&#8217;ve been wrong my whole life&#8230;...LOL! 
First person account

	

	
		I felt ambushed, paralyzed, trapped. I couldn’t get enough air in my nostrils and my stomach felt like a soccer punch had hit me. 
Office confrontation

	

	Maybe they heard someone using this version.

	
		oh.. sleep just socker punched me! i almost dozed off! 
Twitter

	

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Message: 	Some of the pale host.

	
		Don&#8217;t know if Sting realizes this but he needs The Police. Two of his solo records worth a dam Soul Cages/Ten Sommoner&#8217;s Tales&#8230;. everything else impales in comparison.
Pop fan site

	

	
		LEON IS MY FAVE!!!! FAVE FAVE FAVE FAVE FAVE!!!!!! CHRIS BAILS IN COMPARISON TO LEON&#8217;S AWESOMENESS1!
Gamer site

	

	
		As quality as “30 Rock” is, it’s overall arching structure often hails in comparison to “Parks and Rec.” 
TV show fan

	

	
		Use to use CoverGirl&#8217;s foundation for oily skin, but it ails in comparison. 
Infallible never fail makeup

	

	
		Investments have been made by Saudis to companies that were once affiliated with the Bush family but never directly to any member.  This wails in comparison to the amount of money the U.S. Government has given the Bush family over the last few decades.  
Economics essay

	

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<description>Topic: 	Tabula Rosa

 

Message: 	rh, if this is an eggcorn, do you have a sense of what the perps were imagining? The associations I have for &#8216;rosa&#8217; would be roses, the colour pink, rosy, Ms. Parks, and maybe the confidentiality of sub rosa. It might be a blend with the latter. Or maybe he started out or came out smelling like roses?

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<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 15:08:35 -0400</pubDate>
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Message: 	&#8221;[Obama] was maybe the first tabula rosa candidate&#8221; 

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