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#1 2008-10-25 08:00:56

Peter Forster
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'off the beat and track' for 'off the beaten track'

I suppose it would be possible to be on a track which is not the beaten one, ‘off the beaten track’, as opposed to not being on any track or beat at all, ‘off the beat and track’, but I prefer a more musical interpretation of ‘beat’ which renders the eggcornish idiom a little more interesting. Whether those using it are entertaining this alternative imagery is another matter…

Yes, he had a forum but do you really think that was the appropriate time to say something so off the beat and track? It was a fundraising event. ...
hollaatyaboys.blogspot.com/2005/11/tdrsthe-jumping-off-bandwagon- edition_22.html

24 Oct 2008 … Mend your ears This might seem off the beat and track but it is a health concern none the less. Any factor hindering a sense is a health …
www.letsgetphysical.co.uk/7-quick-fixes … 4-103.html

You are also very correct that this site has gotton off the beat and track for what it is meant to be….I for one do not want to waste space here just to …
www.vulvodynia.com/guestbk19.htm – 652k

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#2 2008-10-25 12:26:21

DavidTuggy
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Re: 'off the beat and track' for 'off the beaten track'

There is also a sense of beat which is a close synonym of track: as in a policeman’s beat. Wonder if that might be active too/instead.


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we would be too simple-minded to understand it* .

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#3 2008-10-25 13:33:15

Peter Forster
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Re: 'off the beat and track' for 'off the beaten track'

That was my first thought, that it was influenced by reinforcing pairs like ‘hue and cry’, ‘damn and blast’ or ‘rack/wrack and ruin’, but as usual I placed the emphasis on the least likely but most tempting…

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#4 2008-10-25 16:42:12

DavidTuggy
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Re: 'off the beat and track' for 'off the beaten track'

Sorry, I see now that you did mention it: I just didn’t catch it.


*If the human mind were simple enough for us to understand,
we would be too simple-minded to understand it* .

(Possible Corollary: it is, and we are .)

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#5 2008-10-25 18:31:10

DavidTuggy
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Re: 'off the beat and track' for 'off the beaten track'

Btw, a related one is

I enjoy travels off the beating path, rarely with groups.

Venturing off the beating path is exciting and an enticing option. But driving on foreign roads may be complicated

Canoe Kayak Raft Tube Outfitters in Tennessee¶ Off The Beating Path Adventures 3072 Slabtown Rd, Mountain City, TN

Comforting and serene off the beating path yet close to the fun. Home has 2 bedrooms.

TripAdvisor forums – Great off the beating track destination – Visit TripAdvisor , your source for the web’s best unbiased reviews of vacations, hotels

I suppose it can be taken as a path or track for beating, which people beat (until it is beaten) with their feat when they visit it in groves as they are want to due.


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we would be too simple-minded to understand it* .

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#6 2008-10-26 04:39:31

Peter Forster
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Re: 'off the beat and track' for 'off the beaten track'

There are even more references to ‘off the beat and path’ rather than track, including, to my shygrin, an entry in the Eggcorn Database.
I notice that ‘bitter retreat’ has 234 ghits and wonder whether ‘beat a retreat’ may be exerting some influence. There are a few examples where they actually team up:

During the next years the Presbyterian exclusivists beat a bitter retreat. In 1933, unable to inhibit the spread of liberal teachings in the foreign mission …
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0195300475

Ben Hecht must have felt right at home when he beat a bitter retreat from his beloved Chicago to his native New York. Here he could savor Chicago architect …
benhechtbooks.net/ben_hecht_in_new_york – 16k

Saigo beat a bitter retreat to his home in Kagoshima where, in true Samurai fashion, he committed ritual suicide. Saigo’s death was the death of the Samurai …
www.willamette.edu/~rloftus/meijirest.html – 28k

... defences built by the Duke of Wellington, which forced Napoleon’s troops to beat a bitter retreat from the gates of Lisbon during the Peninsular War …
www.locatetv.com/tv/sharpes-war – 18k

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#7 2008-10-27 14:18:17

Peter Forster
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Re: 'off the beat and track' for 'off the beaten track'

There are also 42 ughits for ‘off the bitten track’ which I initially read as spelling errors but on reflection I’m supposing could refer to tracks which have not been tasted or had any bites taken from them ie new, virgin or otherwise unblemished, unbitten…

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#8 2020-03-13 07:26:06

Peter Forster
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Re: 'off the beat and track' for 'off the beaten track'

Here’s another variant. Handy if you favour crushed and defeated holiday destinations. ‘The beating heart of…’ is what they’re after of course, or am I missing something?

Explore the beaten heart of Morocco and its surviving empire. Throughout this cultural day tour you will be introduced to real Moroccan culture,…

Enjoy a guided walkin tour and discover the beaten heart of the Pisa city. Visit Arno River and his “Lungarni”, go to the Square of Miracles and listen to your …

Our beautiful house is in right in the beaten heart of Bisceglie. From the balcony you can see the ancient tower , the lively fish market and the…

We will go in the beaten heart of the city: Santa Maria Novella and Santa Croce quarters, and in the Oltrarno (the other side of the Arno river): the Santo Spirito …

Bath Abbey and the Pump Room are the beaten heart of Bath city center.

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#9 2020-06-23 15:37:56

kem
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Re: 'off the beat and track' for 'off the beaten track'

“Beaten heart.” Sort of a controcorn.


Hatching new language, one eggcorn at a time.

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