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#1 2007-07-04 11:22:35

vguerra
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"waiver" for "waver"

This morning I read this sentence, from the Los Angeles Times:
”’He sticks to his guns because of his commitment to a notion of leadership that says leaders don’t waiver,’ said Bruce Buchanan, a University of Texas political scientist who has followed Bush’s career.”—from “Bush’s move cheers conservative base: The president’s decision to spare Libby prison time stirs outrage but, perhaps more crucially, gratifies conservatives,” by Janet Hook, Times Staff Writer, Los Angeles Times, July 3, 2007 < http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la … ome-center >

I had not encountered “waiver” for “waver” before. But a quick Google search reveals that it definitely exists.

“don’t waiver”: 697 ghits “never waiver”: 18,400 ghits
And, from what I can tell, it does qualify as an eggcorn, since “waiver” has a certain vague semantic kinship to “waver.”

I don’t like the example above, however, because some might blame the professor for the error.

Here’s a better one, embedded in the opening paragraph of an article in the British Journalism Review:
“They are easy to spot at a party. Shoulders hunched – eyes darting narrowly – a general sense of despair. Yes, they are Britain’s national newspaper editors. And boy, are they glum over their circulations. Nevertheless, as they ponder what they are going to make of their careers, they must never waiver in their belief that what they do every day does make a difference.”—from “Why Dacre’s worth his million,” by Kelvin MacKenzie, British Journalism Review, Vol. 16, No. 1, 2005, pages 70-7 < http://www.bjr.org.uk/data/2005/no1_mackenzie.htm >

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#2 2007-07-04 17:25:19

jorkel
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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

Welcome to the Eggcorn Website vguerra. I’m having difficulty deciding whether the usage you cite is a malapropism or an eggcorn. If a form of “waive” were intended in those sentences, then the meaning would be along the lines of “forgo.” When an utterer says someone “didn’t waiver in his belief” the intention might be “didn’t relinquish his belief” but it sounds like a bit of a stretch. One might argue that the meaning “waver” was intended and that the error is simply a misspelling.

Related eggcorns of wave/waive…

waived off for waved off by ana Contribute! 1 2006-12-16 02:06:40 by jorkel

WAVE your rights (waive) by jorkel Contribute! 2 2006-09-13 10:52:41 by Tom Neely

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#3 2007-07-06 17:17:10

huevomaiztro
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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

I suspect this is a true eggcorn. Searches of “not waiver” also turned up a few telling hits from sites that probably are edited carefully. In other words, these are sites where I would not expect a simple misspelling to appear in the first place, let alone survive for long:
—A news release by Northern Ireland’s Alliance Party: “Minister must not waiver on smoking ban,” at http://www.allianceparty.org/news/001670.html
—A translation of a quote from Otto von Bismarck: “A government must not waiver once it has chosen it’s course. It must not look to the left or right but go forward,” at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote … 49420.html (I could spot you this one: Given the “it’s” in place of “its,” BrainyQuote might not be as brainy as they think they are.)
—A statement by Republican Congressman Phil Gingrey: “As the Senate continues debating their misguided immigration bill, House Republicans have made it clear that we will not waiver from our principles of reform,” at http://www.topix.net/forum/source/the-m … DV9CJI/p18
—A published statement by Democratic Senator Joe Biden: “I urge the President to not waiver from the path he appeared to choose when he addressed the nation two weeks ago,” which he wrote twice at http://biden.senate.gov/newsroom/detail … d=213203&&
—A quote from the official transcript of a speech by W (perhaps the strongest evidence that the substitution has arisen precisely from the semantic kinship and the writer’s ignorance of the distinction): “We will not waiver, we will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail. Peace and freedom will prevail,” at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/na … 100801.htm
—The same quote from the same speech, this time posted on AmericanRhetoric.com at http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeche … tanops.htm
—The quote from W once more, only this time etched in gold, at: http://cgi.ebay.com/Twin-Towers-Commemo … dZViewItem

Taking these and the many examples found in the searches above, all from sites where I would expect authors to be reviewing their work carefully, I vote that “waiver/waver” merits status as an eggcorn.

And on this stand I shall not waiver.

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#4 2007-07-06 19:18:41

patschwieterman
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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

huevomaiztro—I found an implicit claim in your post really interesting. You imply that an eggcorn is more likely to make its way past the watchful eyes of editors than a malaprop or misspelling. I agree; I’ve thought of making use of just this idea to return to the possibility that “viscous circle” might be an eggcorn.

And I think it’s possible that eggcornish thinking may lie behind some uses of “waiver” for “waver.” But I’m absolutely not convinced that instances of “waiver” from websites that probably have editors constitute proof of eggcornicity. I’ve been tracking eggcorns for two years now all over the web, and I’ve seen misspellings galore in major newspapers, in books published by renowned publishing houses, etc. Furthermore, congressional speeches are treasure troves of misspellings, malaprops and eggcorns, and I’ve definitely spotted a few misspellings in write-ups of presidential speeches, too—though, as you say, the latter usually get corrected within a few hours because there are so many eyes looking at them. I actually don’t think the US government’s editing standards are very high for transcribed speech. And the BBC also seems to have a major problem in that regard. (As far as I can tell, the BBC is a much bigger offender than other news services, but it’s possible they’re simply publishing more transcriptions than anyone else.) I’ll admit that I’m surprised, however, that the Washington Post didn’t just edit the transcription of W’s remarks—I suspect that the AP often edits out the misspellings, etc. in government press releases.

Another relevant point here is that “waiver” for “waver” is a particularly insidious misspelling: the two words are precise homophones; “a” and “ai” are both very common ways of representing the “long a” sound in English; both words are reasonably familiar to a well-read person; and the average spellchecker can’t catch this (yet). If there’s a particular type of misspelling likely to get past a seasoned editor, this is it.

There may well be some eggcorns among all those “waivers.” But unless something in a particular passage points specifically to the “waiver” meaning, it’ll be hard to make a convincing argument that substitution of “waiver” isn’t just a misspelling.

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#5 2007-07-06 19:25:18

jorkel
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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

Although I’m a little embarrassed to admit it, I did not previously know that the proper spelling was “waver.” But putting that aside, the eggcorn issue will have to be decided on the imagery element. The awkward grammar works a little against it, but I can still be convinced if we can elaborate on the imagery associated with a few choice examples.

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#6 2007-07-07 01:24:26

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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

To those who might think that anyone who had the responsibility of reviewing President Bush’s 2001 speech would have recognized the error of printing “waiver” instead of “waver” if only someone had called it to their attention, I submit these verbatim repetitions of “We will not waiver, we will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail”:
• a speech by Rumsfeld to troops in Kyrgyzstan in April 2002: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ … usia01.htm

• a speech by Navy Secretary Gordon R. England on naming the USS New York in September 2002: http://www.navy.mil/navydata/people/sec … 020907.txt

• the DOD’s official transcript of Rumsfeld’s comments before the troops at the famous “town hall meeting” in Kuwait City in June 2002: http://www.defenselink.mil/speeches/spe … eechid=255

• I could go on, but go through the Google hits for “We will not waiver, we will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail” yourself and see what you think: http://www.google.com/search?client=saf … 8&oe=UTF-8

My point isn’t necessarily that skilled editors made this mistake, but that the perpetuation of the error is quite strong evidence that the people reviewing this error in word choice actually think “waiver” is the right word. It can’t be—it’s a noun; its verb form is “waive.” But I guess that, to make it a true eggcorn, there needs to be some plausible explanation for a learned person’s mistaking the one word for the other.

I do think that something cognitive—not simple ignorance or inattention—is going on here. Specifically, I suspect that when these folks read “We will not waiver,” they think it means “We will not release an intangible asset,” or something of that ilk. After all, the actual meaning of “waive” is along the lines of giving up, as in waiving the right to remain silent. And bureaucrats tend to verbize nouns and “noun” verbs so much that most of them can no longer tell one from the other.

So whereas the real meaning of “We will not waver” is “We will stand our ground firmly”—in other words, “We will not even shudder or quake” in a metaphorical sense—I suspect that whoever edited Bush’s, Rumsfeld’s, and England’s speeches thinks they’re literally saying “We will not yield this debating point.” Perhaps the imagery is not as distinct and pithy as is the case with “dungeon/dudgeon,” but I suspect it is related to a more legalistic, and less physical, perception of the world around us. The really odd thing here is that the metaphorical sense of “waver,” not the literal sense of “waiver,” is the more concrete.

For examples unrelated to this string of speeches:
• Check this from the New Hampshire Union Leader of April 29, 2007, where a reporter (or editor, or both) believes a source said, “We will not waiver from our position”: http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx … 71febad378

• Or see where Leon G. Billings, in an April 2005 speech to the Edmund Muskie School of Public Service said, “But Muskie would not waiver on his commitment to Social Security” (as printed on the site of the Muskie Foundation): http://www.muskiefoundation.org/billing … 41305.html

• Or where Mark Thoma said (December 28, 2005, on Economist’s View), “But monetary authorities have convinced me they will not waiver in their commitment to price stability”: http://economistsview.typepad.com/econo … ry-8109501

Interestingly, I got these by Googling “not waiver” plus “union” plus “leader,” and turned up a bunch of hits where various union leaders assert that they will not waiver: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22not+w … art=0&sa=N

All of which is consistent with my contention that people who live in worlds of legalese and contracts picture the phrase to literally mean something to do with not exercising one of their rights, while the rest of us picture the phrase to refer metaphorically to our being firmly entrenched in a battle line, unwilling to yield an inch of turf to the opposition.

More to the point, let’s consider “will not waiver/will not waver” from the standpoint of stated characteristics of true eggcorns:
• In a typical eggcorn, the writer understands the sense of the word he or she actually employs; the problem is that the use takes up the place already occupied by a different word, often part of a set phrase. [Bingo!]
• Eggcorns make some kind of sense of an obscure or opaque phrase, but malapropisms don’t. [Iffy: On the surface, “I will not waver” is neither obscure nor opaque, but if you’re mired in a legalistic mindset, “I will not waiver” is far more familiar.]
• An eggcorn is an eggcorn even if just one person utters it. (Granted, it must follow certain rules …a critical one being that it’s a naive utterance). [I’m having trouble seeing how something can be a completely naive utterance while also making sense of an obscure or opaque phrase, but I think it’s clear from the many, many examples that—except in two cases not cited above where it was clearly a play on words—many writers are completely oblivious to the distinction between “will not waver” and “will not waiver.”]
• Using a “reasonable person standard,” I guess I’d pick the eggcorns that have the widest impact on language reshaping—and that means the greatest number of people making the same alteration. [It’s interesting to me that the overwhelming majority of ghits for “don’t waiver/never waiver/will not waiver” are from content clearly developed after W’s “We will go after Al Qaeda and the Taliban” speech in 2001. I suspect that we are in fact observing an alteration of the language by this one misuse: Of the three occurrences I found before that speech, one was clearly a play on words and the other two were clearly misspellings, as “will not waver” was used elsewhere in the same documents.]
• A phrase is an eggcorn if just a single person mis-hears the original phrase and unknowingly creates new imagery which makes sense when they go to reuse it. [The same people have been using it again and again in different settings without ever recognizing that it’s the wrong word. C’mon… some intern somewhere must have called it to their attention. I can’t conjure precise imagery of what they must be thinking, but I’m sure it makes sense to them.]
• Finally: Even if another person creates the very same phrase by way of pun (or other contrived means), it does not detract from the fact that at least ONE person made it by way of an honest mistake. [Apparently, in addition to whoever wrote all those speeches (including many I didn’t link to), jorkel did.]

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#7 2007-07-07 08:21:04

jorkel
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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

The first half of your last post would probably suffice. There’s really no need to quote my past statements because I’m not officially associated with this website and the linguists may likely disagree with me on some points. But I do like to see a strong case made for the imagery—which you have now done—because many posters just toss out a language reshaping with little explanation of why it would be considered an eggcorn. (Part of what we try to hash out is the true category for the reshaping… eggcorns, folk etymology, malapropisms, misspellings, spellchecker-induced misspellings [Cupertino effect], etc. So perhaps toward that end, the items of mine that you quoted are apropos).

By the way, I really liked these two paragraphs of yours—reproduced below—because they really strike at the mindset of the utterer and lend credibility to this being an eggcorn…

I do think that something cognitive—not simple ignorance or inattention—is going on here. Specifically, I suspect that when these folks read “We will not waiver,” they think it means “We will not release an intangible asset,” or something of that ilk. After all, the actual meaning of “waive” is along the lines of giving up, as in waiving the right to remain silent. And bureaucrats tend to verbize nouns and “noun” verbs so much that most of them can no longer tell one from the other.

So whereas the real meaning of “We will not waver” is “We will stand our ground firmly”—in other words, “We will not even shudder or quake” in a metaphorical sense— I suspect that whoever edited Bush’s, Rumsfeld’s, and England’s speeches thinks they’re literally saying “We will not yield this debating point.” ...

(The phrases in bold are my emphasis about mindset)!

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#8 2007-07-07 11:04:49

huevomaiztro
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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

Thanks, jorkel! I was having fun and got carried away. Glad you took it in stride.

It also occurred to me this morning that we might have a new beast here. The best eggcorns take a misunderstood image (not necessarily opaque—it’s hard to imagine how anyone could consider “acorn” to be opaque) and replace it with another image that is crystal clear once you see it from that perspective.

But as I noted above, this seems to be an instance of replacing a clear metaphor with a foggy notion. We might need a new term for this. After all, a classic eggcorn reveals cleverness in someone who isn’t very good with words, but this beast exposes the muddle-headedness of someone who is (or should be) quite well-read.

We shouldn’t demean the clever by lumping the muddle-headed in with them. Still, it’s more than a malapropism, and it isn’t quite newspeak. For lack of a better term, it’s an eggcorn, but I still would like to see a better term.

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#9 2007-07-08 00:05:15

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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

There’s a very basic problem here: the usual sense of “waver” explains every instance that’s been cited so far. For this argument to be convincing, quotations that can’t be explained by a simple misspelling of “waver” will need to be cited.

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#10 2007-07-08 02:13:36

huevomaiztro
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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

I would think that a rigorous application of that standard would remove a great number of entries from the current Eggcorn Database. For example, I’m pretty sure the usual sense of “dudgeon” would also explain every instance cited for “in high dungeon.” It just seems a little clearer in that case that the writer has an image of some poor soul in the first level of hell. But we can’t be sure that that’s what they mean any more than we can be sure of the intended meaning of a person who refuses to “waiver”: waive my right to impose my brand of justice on the world or waver in this righteous stance?

But, at any rate, here’s something to consider: You know the speech by Navy Secretary Gordon England I cited above—the one given September 7, 2002? Well, it seems that Secretary England gave the same speech about two months earlier at a Navy luncheon. Now check the July 2, 2002 transcript. In it, the error had been corrected—the July transcript says “waver,” not “waiver.” In the intervening period, it seems, someone changed it back to the wrong word.

Short of subpoenaing a member of what is perhaps the most secretive administration in our nation’s history, I don’t think we can ever really know what the person responsible for this re-revision was (or wasn’t) thinking. But it seems to me that the misspelling has been brought to the attention of whoever first wrote “waiver,” but they keep changing it back. I don’t think they think it’s a misspelling. I think they know “waiver” and “waver” are homophones, but they think “waver” is the wrong word.

After all, a “waiver” is about due process. A “waver” is someone on a parade float.

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#11 2007-07-08 03:00:11

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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

“Waiver” is a homophone of “waver,” but “dungeon” isn’t a homophone of “dudgeon.” The spellings of homophones are commonly substituted for each other—and that seems to be happening here.

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#12 2007-07-08 08:40:47

jorkel
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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

I just located a discussion of “waiver” right here in the Forum (which didn’t come up when I conducted my previous search with the term “waive”):

Never Waiver by leflynn Contribute! 0 2006-03-25 09:23:20 by leflynn

Leflynn does an excellent job of presenting the situation, but no decisive conclusion was reached in that post either. (Sorry I was not aware of that post previously).
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I tried to Google “not waiver” with “waive” to see if the two concepts would be mentioned in close proximity, but there were just 34 hits, and the two items were always separated by an ellipsis (...) effectively removing any connectedness between the two. For instance…

[PDF] 5 Self-Evaluation ReportFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat – View as HTML
The Executive Director has the discretion to waive the payment in full of …... [2] that staff will not waiver on their enforcement of the respective law …
www.sunset.state.tx.us/79threports/tsbbe/ser.pdf – Similar pages

Dying to Preserve the Lies: September 2004I feel that he will not waiver. He’s made it very clear that he will stay …... The Senate needed to waive budget rules to consider the proposal as part of …
dyingwarriors.blogspot.com/2004_09_01_archive.html – 427k – Cached – Similar pages

[PDF] Nov05 AdvoFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat – View as HTML
that you are on his side and that you will not waiver from …... A defendant cannot waive the unitary jury requirement:. Because the Federal Death Penalty …
dpa.ky.gov/library/advocate/pdf/2005/advocate-vol%2027-no%206-entire%20issue%20(11-2005).pdf – Similar pages

So, I haven’t been able to disclose anything new with this approach.
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I would also note that the homophone issue arises in the mistaken usage of “faulter” for “falter” (where the concept of “fault” is implied). I just posted about these here in the Forum:

faulter for falter—eggcorn or simple misspelling? by buddhagazelle [ New posts ] Contribute! 1 Today 03:31:23 by jorkel
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Finally, I find it curious that many of the reshapings of either “falter” or “waver” occur in the conservative cry:
“We will not falter. We will not waver. We will not tire, and we will not fail.”

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#13 2007-07-08 13:04:41

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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

“Sign a waver” has 982 hits. “Sign a waiver” has 455,000.

Examples:

The majority of vets are probably going to recommend it, and some may ask you to sign a waver if you decline. Is it really necessary? ...
www.beaconforhealth.org/worms.htm – 10k

would be in effect Sears would have to sign a waver and release consent, ....leftatthegate.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_archive.html – 400k

This means you may need to sign a waver allowing the release of your medical records to your Tibetan Medicine practitioner. ...
home.earthlink.net/~holistic-health/tibetan-traditional-medicine-faq.htm – 23k

I agree that this is a somewhat more difficult submission due to the homophone, but when “waver” is associated with “release” or “decline”, I think there is a stronger argument for an eggcorn. In fact, as a firefighter here in Austin,Tx, we frequently use “waved off” to express being released from the scene upon our approach, by EMS or police already there. It conveys “declining” our services or “I’m good, we got it. Thanks, anyway”. I hope the info isn’t overly anecdotal because I do believe the imagery is very common in everyday life. So, yeah, I’m proposing that it is at least possible for eggcorn imagery from this direction and that “forgo”, “release”, “relinquish” and “wave off” may indeed have a strong association.

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#14 2010-02-07 03:15:13

JuanTwoThree
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Re: "waiver" for "waver"

There are already half a dozen threads on wave/waive but I’ve chosen the longest to bring to your attention this from the Daily Mail, not my favourite newspaper I’m bound to say:

“Katy Perry frisked at airport security as fiancé Russell Brand is waived through”

Interesting of course because security both waived its right to search Mr Brand and waved him through.


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