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Chris -- 2018-04-11
I’ve been hoping for some time that this one might somehow resolve itself but it hasn’t and probably won’t, so I’m shedding it now. Characters in Edwardian, Victorian and much earlier popular fiction might use expressions like, ‘the deuce take it!” and “What the deuce!”. ‘Deuce’ here is a euphemism for ‘the devil’: ‘what the deuce’-
Similar to “What the hell?” or “What’s going on?” “Dude, I haven’t heard from you in three weeks. What the deuce?” by Kaylie Klopf Colorado Apr 28, ...
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term … e+deuce%3F – 19k – Cached
Hail! the gang’s all here, What the deuce do we care, What the deuce do we care, Hail! Hail! we’re full of cheer, What the deuce do we care Bill! ...
lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/h/hailhailthegangsallhere.shtml – 10k – Cached
In the meantime, ‘the juice’ becomes more than squeezed fruit; ‘the juice’, as in ‘what’s the juice?’ is insider knowledge, the essence, the truth, the ‘lowdown’, especially, but not exclusively, in a gambling sense:
What’s the juice you may be asking? Well, the juice, or the vig as it is also commonly called, is the sportsbook’s commission it charges to take your bet …
www.sportsbettingstats.com/reduced-juice-betting.asp – 15k – Cached
So here I am clunking about with H G Wells and Thackeray delivering our polite curses…
The History of Pendennis / Thackeray, William Makepeace, 1811-1863… and asked “what the juice they were to say to the lad if he remained …... exclaimed the other wildly; “you say I am your dearest friend—Let me be …
infomotions.com/etexts/gutenberg/dirs/etext05/pendn10.htm –
The Wheels of Chance: a bicycling idyll, by H. G. WellsI don’t know what the juice is up, but I think there’s something wrong. ...... exclaimed Jessie, taking it. “It’s ’andy,†said Mr. Hoopdriver. ...
etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/w/wells/hg/w45wh/complete.html – 353k – Cached
and I think perhaps we’ve been cupertinoed, but also that there may have been some leakage, an idiom collision.
There is an alternative use of deuce dating from the 15th c, referring to the number two as on a playing card, or die which continues the notion of gambling and which may have a direct link to current juice/deuce usage. My analytical faculties are rudimentary, and failing fast, but I do feel that something eggcornish is at work here…
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I hate to make things worse, but what the duece.
Okay what the douche is going on i have been gone for a few days (my bad three family members and my girls sister all had kids within the span of a week and …
utforums.epicgames.com/archive/index.php?t-550714.html – 10k
br/>Wind-What the douche are you doing?Ah!!<br/>—-<br/>ßlåçkÇå†XIII …
www.gamespot.com/.../show_msgs.php?topi … v_button=1 – 99k
Not to mention, what the douche is with Elizabeth kissing everyone? I think she really wants to piss fangirls off. She’s practically signing her own Death …
pointsetta.deviantart.com/ – 55k – Cached – Similar pages – Note this
This one probably comes about from an eggcornish substitution for misheard mild cursing, combined with low exposure to the use of “deuce” in any sense other than that of a playing card. Now, I’m off to bring myself up to speed…....
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....yes, “deuce”, in the meaning of rolling “snake eyes”(2) in dice, came to denote bad luck/the devil in the 17th century.
I suspect, especially in american english, that “juice” and “douche” came about for similar reasons: no parallel usage of “deuce” as an exclamation. Sorry, Peter, it just doesn’t exist here. We’ll all have to get reaquainted, soon. Maybe that’s what we’re doing now! Anyway, it’s non-existence as an american idiom, I think, may be the piece of info missing in your investigation. I hope this helps. Couldn’t it still be an eggcorn? A substitution of mild cursing lingo?
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