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Chris -- 2011-03-08
The “penny drop” thread got me very philosophical about how and when eggcorns are generated. So, humor me and consider whether you agree with some or all that I’m positing below…
Consider the expression “It was so quiet, one could hear a pin drop,” and ask by what means the word “pen” or “penny” might replace “pin.”
By one route, an attentive listener might hear the word “pin,” decide that the imagery doesn’t make sense, and substitute a nearby word “pen” or “penny” which does make sense to him—arguing that perhaps this is what was intended in the first place.
By a second route, an inattentive listener might hear “could hear a pnnn drop,” and be left with the impression of a “pen” of a “penny” dropping and unknowingly make the mental substitution then and there.
By a third route, a listener—probably inattentive—might hear the expression and not give it any deep thought until he later tries to reproduce it in conversation. At that later point, the listener becomes a foggy recollector (if you will) and produces the original the best he can but with the substitution of either “pen” or “penny.”
In all instances, the original is corrupted by a slight degree as far as the sounds are concerned, but by a significant degree as far as imagery is concerned (while still working within the same context).
I wonder if we could say that these three different processes all have the net effect of producing an eggcorn.
Last edited by jorkel (2008-07-13 20:33:53)
Add to them a fourth factor: the foggy recollector sorta also remembers a phrase out there about a penny dropping and blends it in.
Think about it, and maybe the pin will drop.
I’ve been pondering the implications of Facebook’s SocialAds announcement and it has created some interesting lines of thought. The moment the pin dropped was when Dave Winer linked to one of his old posts that contains the following money quote: that’s when the whole idea of advertising will go poof, will disappear. If it’s perfectly targeted, it isn’t advertising, it’s information. Information is welcome, advertising is offensive.
www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/11/11/S … xster.aspx
Then the pin dropped and he realised that by having a UK phone number he should have put in the +27 code before the number. Doh! ...
(Same process backwards, I think. A fairly reasonable eggcorn: the pin of a locking mechanism drops into place. I’ll report it over on the Contributions part of the site.)
Last edited by DavidTuggy (2008-07-13 21:07:39)
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