Eggcorn Forum

Discussions about eggcorns and related topics

You are not logged in.

Announcement

Registrations are currently closed because of a technical problem. Please send email to if you wish to register.

The forum administrator reserves the right to request users to plausibly demonstrate that they are real people with an interest in the topic of eggcorns. Otherwise they may be removed with no further justification. Likewise, accounts that have not been used for posting may be removed.

Thanks for your understanding.

Chris -- 2018-04-11

#1 2009-11-27 23:21:08

kem
Eggcornista
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2007-08-28
Posts: 2853

Van Demon's Land << Van Dieman's Land

Tasmania was a British penal colony during the first half of the nineteenth century. In those days it was known to the world as “Van Dieman’s Land.” Abel Tasman, the first European to explore the island, named it after Anthony Van Dieman, the Governor of the Dutch East Indies. Nearly 75,000 prisoners were sentenced to be transported to Van Dieman’s Land in the fifty years that it received the offscourings of Britain. When the island ceased being a penal colony, it incorporated as Tasmania, partly, it seems, because of the bad associations of the old name. People were in habit of calling it “Van Demon’s Land.” An ugly name for a beautiful land.

The demon-Dieman pun on the former name of Tasmania should be a historical footnote today. Recently, however, the name “Van Dieman’s Land” has resurfaced in the media. It is the title of a ballad sung by Bono and Edge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ61jqKFo74 ) and, just this fall, it became the name of film about Tasmania’s penal colony period. (http://www.vandiemensland-themovie.com/ ). In the film, a group of prisoners escape from a compound on the island and find themselves prisoners of a landscape determined to kill them.

For better or worse, the return of the pre-Tasmania name has brought back the old associations. Some of the web examples of “Van Demon’s Land” look like they might be fresh eggcorns. A small sample of them:

Guitar forum post: “ van demon’s land makes me wonder why…[E]dge doesn’t sing more songs by himself”

Flickr discussion: “It’s an anthem sung at football matches, Liverpool.etc. It can be a sad song, about an Irish rebel banished to Van Demon’s Land ”

Discussion board for the town of Abbeyfeale: “Perhaps they have gone to watch the test cricket – or to check out distant relatives who might have been deported to Van Demon’s Land in the last century”

Last edited by kem (2009-12-30 23:33:55)


Hatching new language, one eggcorn at a time.

Offline

 

#2 2009-11-28 10:45:46

Peter Forster
Eggcornista
From: UK
Registered: 2006-09-06
Posts: 1224

Re: Van Demon's Land << Van Dieman's Land

(Offscourings? The cream may rise to the top, but scum floats too.)
I remember this confusion having been raised in a largely Irish expatriate community, where the notion of Van Demon’s land may have been reinforced by the existence of Tasmanian Devils. (That Edge song reminds me very much of ‘Dirty Old Town’ which many think is Irish, thanks to The Pogues and The Dubliners, but was written by a Mancunian Scot.)

Offline

 

Board footer

Powered by PunBB
PunBB is © 2002–2005 Rickard Andersson
Individual posters retain the copyright to their posts.

RSS feeds: active topicsall new posts