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Chris -- 2011-03-08
More fall him for getting into so many scrapes and situations throughout his career.
If someone buys it with whats available, more fall them.
Until I read closely, I thought your first hit was an eggcorn for the verb fault. I wonder whether fool, fall, full, fault, and maybe foul are a mix-n-match collection.
Whadda y’all make of this: moreful. Is it something like too much, over the top, characteristic maybe? A cousin of awful?
Moreful. Makes sense. More full of it.
Maybe related to mournful? But I would pronounce the “ful” in mournful very differently than the “fool” in “more fool I”. There must be regional pronunciations where full and fool are homonyms?
Last edited by fpberger (2013-04-02 16:10:38)
Google sleuthing shows the hits are from UK, UK, Italy, UK, and UK.Maybe Peter or Juani can help us out here next time they’re through.
Nothing terribly eggcornish about it (though it certainly shows a semantic restructuring that apparently made sense), but the case markings on this phrase are noteworthy. I think (without researching it: so I am a perp if wrong on this) that the standard or original form would be something like “more fool he”, i.e. ‘he is (shown to be) a greater fool’, and similarly “more fool(s) we/I/she/they”, but for a lot of people it apparently feels right to say “more fool him (/us/me/her/them)”, i.e. (I think) “somebody has (is shown to have) fooled him (/me/etc.) more, made him (/me/etc.) a greater fool”. Falling (or being befallen) into foolery one way or another, I suppose.
(This is of course but one of many restructurings of this sort, going both ways but most often changing a subject [nominative] construal to an object [accusative or dative] construal.)
*If the human mind were simple enough for us to understand,
we would be too simple-minded to understand it* .
I wouldn’t say that fall full and fool were homonymous but they are perhaps closer in British RP than in other pronunciations; in fast connected speech:
More fool you
More full you
More fall you
come out fairly close to each other. Speaking for myself.