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Chris -- 2018-04-11
I don’t even know how I got here, but I love it. Anyway, I did a search for “haycorn” because I thought that was what Piglet calls an “acorn” which I believe “eggcorn” comes from. I can’t believe no one has previously posted this. Either that, or the search engine is not finding it.
haycorn, eggcorn, tomato, tomahtoe…
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Hi, Pete, and welcome to the forum.
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I think there was a previous post about “haycornâ€. It should be at https://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/2/eggcorn/
but there is something wrong with the site right now and that page and the main database page won’t come up. The search engine result was the following incomplete citation:
And Piglet calls them “haycornsâ€. What’s up with that? Quote: “I’m planting a haycorn, Pooh, so that it can grow up into an oak-treeâ€. 3. Commentary by Mr Cat , 2006/01/22 at 10:34 pm. Piglet says haycorn as he pronounces the ‘a’ like ‘hay’, thus Mr AA wrote it that way. Great writing comes with a free creative licence. 4.
I don’t know what else may be in that entry. But generally, puns and conscious wordplay are not eggcorns. To be an eggcorn the non-standard form must (1) be standard for somebody, i.e. they use it without knowing it is non-standard, and (2) make sense to them in a novel way, involve a shift in imagery, as some have phrased it. An egg-corn is an egg-shaped seed (=corn) of an oak tree; I don’t see myself how hay makes sense in any such way. And I don’t know of anybody who uses the form outside of the Pooh stories. (They might, of course.)
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A pun may involve the same structure as an eggcorn, but the punster is using it knowing very well, in fact using it precisely because, it is non-standard. Milne’s haycorn is clearly in that ballpark. Some of the best puns do indeed shift the imagery and make sense in a striking new way. They perhaps may become eggcorns if somebody hears the pun and learns it thinking it is the standard form. We have sometimes called these “eggplantsâ€, but they are a somewhat peripheral kind of eggcorns.
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