Eggcorn Forum

Discussions about eggcorns and related topics

You are not logged in.

Announcement

Registrations are currently closed because of a technical problem. Please send email to if you wish to register.

The forum administrator reserves the right to request users to plausibly demonstrate that they are real people with an interest in the topic of eggcorns. Otherwise they may be removed with no further justification. Likewise, accounts that have not been used for posting may be removed.

Thanks for your understanding.

Chris -- 2018-04-11

#1 2008-08-25 00:55:48

kem
Eggcornista
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2007-08-28
Posts: 2872

silly-shally << shilly-shally

“Shilly-shally,” meaning “to vacillate,” came into common use in the eighteenth century. It derives from the seventeenth century expression “shall I, shall I” which was modified to “shill I, shall I” and later converted to a compound word.

On at least a dozen web pages we find the variant “silly-shally” and “silly sally” used with the same meaning. The substitution of “silly” may be an eggcorn: certain meanings of “silly” (e.g., confused) could be effective semantic replacements for the dithering implied by “shilly-shally.” The idiom “to drink oneself silly” and the behavior of the product “silly putty” may also lend hints of waffling and confusion to “silly.”

Possibly contamination from the expression “dilly dally” may have led people to drop the “h” in “shilly-shally.” Alternately, the substitution may have been greased by a twongue tister I learned as a child. The one that starts “Silly Sally sells seashells by the seashore,” leads, by about the third repetition, to “Shilly Shally shells….”

Examples:

Quotation from a 1990 book by Maurice Sendak (I don’t have the book to check out whether Sendak was misquoted or whether the error is Sendak’s): “Max doesn’t silly-shally about.” (http://tinyurl.com/64ltzw)

Forum post: “i don’t know whether my choice is right or not, but it is seems i didn’t do any preperation for the quitting, silly-shally whether [to] leave or not bother[s] me a lot. ” (http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1539820.aspx)

From a play: “I want this moment to last forever, to silly-shally with an inspiring partner….” (http://www.bukvite.com/poem.php?docid=45662)


Hatching new language, one eggcorn at a time.

Offline

 

#2 2008-08-25 08:53:31

nilep
Eggcornista
Registered: 2007-03-21
Posts: 291

Re: silly-shally << shilly-shally

“Silly” makes this contribution potentially eggcornish. I wonder if the “Sally” portion makes the reshaping particularly likely. It seems to resonate with alliterative nicknames used as descriptors, such as Wee Willy or Tiny Tim. A Silly Sally may be one who shilly-shallies?

(Hm. My browsers marks “shilly-shallies” and “shilly-shally” as misspellings. The phrase seems to be not familiar enough to make it into this spell checker, making it further ripe for reshaping.)

[Edit: Oops, read carefully before replying, Chad. Kem was posting on silly-shally, not silly-sally.

There are some 101,000 rGhit for “silly-sally,” but several of the first ten appear to be characters in books, CDs, etc. named Silly Sally.

There are a few uses of silly-sally meaning “shilly-shally,” though.

The ruling planet is Mars and Mars people come straight to the point, with no silly-sallying. They are generally straight forward and frank.
http://zodiacbirthdaygreetings.blogspot … -sign.html

Don’t silly sally!! get it!! 
http://cgi.ebay.fr/Dual-Sim-standby-Tri … dZViewItem

OK – I’m a dork. I don’t get “nss.” :-) Not so shy? Never silly sally? Name sugar simple?
http://blogs.herald.com/dave_barrys_blo … ready.html

So there’s that, too.]

Last edited by nilep (2008-08-25 09:04:56)

Offline

 

Board footer

Powered by PunBB
PunBB is © 2002–2005 Rickard Andersson
Individual posters retain the copyright to their posts.

RSS feeds: active topicsall new posts